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PostPosted: 16 Jun 2010, 11:07 
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8O Amazing to see that one of the most logic NT selections (japan) has to be justified by their manager , if some of you would take the time to look at all NT's you would find some strange selections in 90% of the teams. and i'm talking also about teams still in the cup not only friendly's.


Some of you should check when the player was first selected for a NT-team and when he was transferd.....Just a possible scenario... i see a NT with some nice youngster getting games , i hunt down the different owners of those players and buy a total of 6 players , does that mean the NT-managers and I are friends and he is doing me a favor ?

Its all hypothetical!
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I also want to know...who is better between these players?

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=31592

or

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=27780

:?:

and...

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=26944

or

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=27781

:?:

That smells like "He's my player,he deserves to play!",accompanied with FGM.If someone from all people that wrote in the theme except me never wrote FGM's,i'll shot myself.I know at least for two people!Both admins.

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This is lame. If u want your players to be played, make them the very best.

Like for example, my own Mexican Javier Miranda is marginal so the fact he's not playing I'm not complaining.

But if my other stars like McGrath or Nihat don't get games, then its going to be contentious.

If your own players aren't the best, then sometimes don't question the manager's choice :) Make them the best :)

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Martin77 wrote:
I also want to know...who is better between these players?

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=31592

or

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=27780

:?:

and...

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=26944

or

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=27781

:?:

That smells like "He's my player,he deserves to play!",accompanied with FGM.If someone from all people that wrote in the theme except me never wrote FGM's,i'll shot myself.I know at least for two people!Both admins.


Villa's are better, stats and wage wise.

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Martin: I don't think Martin Petrov should play, but Atchinson a share of games. Petrov's stats are weird, and wage too inferior to Dimitar Berbatov and Ventislav Petkov. His a WI/AM and his OFF his horrible. But I think Atchinson is nice stats coupled with a decent wage so he could get some games ? That's just my opinion.

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crazyfrog wrote:
This is lame. If u want your players to be played, make them the very best.

Like for example, my own Mexican Javier Miranda is marginal so the fact he's not playing I'm not complaining.

But if my other stars like McGrath or Nihat don't get games, then its going to be contentious.

If your own players aren't the best, then sometimes don't question the manager's choice :) Make them the best :)


Well,well,i expected sooner or later the voice if the Wizard,I know that you get your irish players from Bohemians on purpose to play for NT.And i bet you bombarded some NT managers with your FGM's,that's a hobby.Well,their wage is so great that they obviously should play.With that wage trick most of the people do wonders.

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Martin77 wrote:
I also want to know...who is better between these players?

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=31592

or

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=27780

:?:

and...

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=26944

or

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=27781

:?:

That smells like "He's my player,he deserves to play!",accompanied with FGM.If someone from all people that wrote in the theme except me never wrote FGM's,i'll shot myself.I know at least for two people!Both admins.


As England manager i checked all the players quite thoroughly and the Yokohama ones were never quite good enough. The new England manager, who was only appointed about a week ago is presumably just playing the ones he's been requested as he's not had any time to assess all the players.

As a more general comment to the whole thread, there has to be an element of letting nt managers get on with selecting who they want, within reason, otherwise you might as well let the computer manage them.

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roda_junior wrote:
Martin: I don't think Martin Petrov should play, but Atchinson a share of games. Petrov's stats are weird, and wage too inferior to Dimitar Berbatov and Ventislav Petkov. His a WI/AM and his OFF his horrible. But I think Atchinson is nice stats coupled with a decent wage so he could get some games ? That's just my opinion.


Thanks for your opinion,Jon,great accuracy and experience is notable from your words.Of course,Petrov can't compete with these giants from division 1 with their superb updates.But i'm trying to build something without NT games and some of my players get their first caps when they're 26.Real prize for me,really.

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rich wrote:
Martin77 wrote:
I also want to know...who is better between these players?

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=31592

or

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=27780

:?:

and...

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=26944

or

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=27781

:?:

That smells like "He's my player,he deserves to play!",accompanied with FGM.If someone from all people that wrote in the theme except me never wrote FGM's,i'll shot myself.I know at least for two people!Both admins.


As England manager i checked all the players quite thoroughly and the Yokohama ones were never quite good enough. The new England manager, who was only appointed about a week ago is presumably just playing the ones he's been requested as he's not had any time to assess all the players.

As a more general comment to the whole thread, there has to be an element of letting nt managers get on with selecting who they want, within reason, otherwise you might as well let the computer manage them.


With your selection England developed well,Richard.I even thought that you stopped to develop Chivas in favour of England and you did your job well,no doubts.You first noticed my GK Latuske and he is better now thanks to you.But not so many people think like you and use NT only for their own players and purposes and that's a bit unfair towards other managers.Yes,some would say "pay and become NT manager".But i remember well how many FGM's i received,when i was.These things aren't good and some inexperienced people doing their selection in favour of someone else! I decided to concentrate on my club,no matter that i had mostly "downs" than "ups".But my work is hardly rewarded just because other people don't see my players or i don't push them.
If NT manager's choice is inaccurate or he is under control of FGM's,that's not good and should be fired!
I hope there could be a better rules since NT games were always a bonus for the update after they were implemented by Morten.

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Villa's are far better.
Martin you discovered something that smells pretty fishy, that goes up the ladder.


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Put your hand to your heart,AJ,and tell me with what your Gairns is better than my Stewart,for example? Just because he played many games in 4th division and scored some goals against some weak teams...he's already top striker? He have wage,that's all,and he'll play in NT until you're here.
Unlike some people i never wrote FGM's to NT managers,just pointed out some of my players at the forum when NT managers asked for youths.Of course,many would pick some great "talents" instead of unadvertised players.They're lazy to search.


I would have never, ever, in a million years have called up a 26k 21yo to an NT.
He's hopeless, you didn't even bother to give him a decent amount of friendlies.

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Valecnik wrote:
8O Amazing to see that one of the most logic NT selections (japan) has to be justified by their manager , if some of you would take the time to look at all NT's you would find some strange selections in 90% of the teams. and i'm talking also about teams still in the cup not only friendly's.


Some of you should check when the player was first selected for a NT-team and when he was transferd.....Just a possible scenario... i see a NT with some nice youngster getting games , i hunt down the different owners of those players and buy a total of 6 players , does that mean the NT-managers and I are friends and he is doing me a favor ?


Thanks for the vote of confidence, Valecnik. Much appreciated.

@Rich: Ye I agree Cruise and Lansbury aren't quite up there, though the latter still has a few redeeming qualities. However, when the new England manager asked for prospects, I put my two up for consideration in the hope they'd have a run out in one or two games. They've done that obviously so I'm happy enough. You'll remember I enquired about them awhile ago, Rich and I was satisfied enough that you had checked them out even though you wouldn't commit to giving them a chance.

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Put your hand to your heart,AJ,and tell me with what your Gairns is better than my Stewart,for example? Just because he played many games in 4th division and scored some goals against some weak teams...he's already top striker? He have wage,that's all,and he'll play in NT until you're here.
Unlike some people i never wrote FGM's to NT managers,just pointed out some of my players at the forum when NT managers asked for youths.Of course,many would pick some great "talents" instead of unadvertised players.They're lazy to search.


I would have never, ever, in a million years have called up a 26k 21yo to an NT.
He's hopeless, you didn't even bother to give him a decent amount of friendlies.


Well someone finally said it the way it was meant to, Martin, the players you are showing are not even close to NT material and the amount of games you are playing them is insulting. If a manager comes and shows me that kind of players with like 10 games like the ones you are showing I would probably just not even bother to reply his mail.
The problem here was Denmark who we (5-6 managers) had fair complaint´s about. Now the current discussion is just another of your well known conspiracies, like the ones with Belgian managers taking over the game or admins against users in a cofrady to bring Morten down.
This is not a personal dispute against you, but in total honesty I have never shared a single point of view with you. Before I forget, I urge you to show me better NT players for Mexico than the ones called up (you brought it up, now show us).

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Nico, I think you and Rich were fairly praised for sincerity in NT managing.


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According what I can read here, there is another topic dedicated to the same NT team and the SAME manger. I would say, if this guy is still in the attention among so many managers which are dedicated to the game, there must be something wrong and should be done something!

I have just become nt manager team, so player comparison option has been accessed to my account. I think this is a very transparent tool, how to pick up players for your team or national team. All you need is some general knowledge about fg and primary school level education. If somebody is abusing game what clearly happens here, he should be punished.

That guy is also ignorant to the other managers, no matter if you write him, he even does not bother to answer. There should be also some way and certain behaviour how to manage any NT team. Since you are not responsible for your own team but for the players widely spread through the whole fg, your behaviour should have certain level of courtessy.

He is constantly playing 16yo kid as a GK. I would like to know your opinion if this gk should deserve some NT friendlies. His wage is not impressive but look at the rating, mom and influence..

http://www.footballglory.com/players/pl ... p?id=26719

Also, imagine how great he would been if he has gotten same amount of games as that kiddo.

that's just my piece of cake.

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Evgeniy and Nico,it's useless to talk with you as i said long ago.
Ev,the only good players in the game are yours,others are weak.Only your point of view is right,only your judgement is the best and always others need to confirm it.But i won't.
From today i won't talk with you on themes,related with FG since you never showed respect towards me and my opinion on this game.

Franzini...we NEVER would have something in common,you're fan of chickens,i'm a fan of these who usually beat them.Because you said something which was denied only by you and other admins...Yes,there was an belgian alliance.Sven left,did you noticed how changed the transfer policy of clubs with particular belgian managers? Before we had exchanges in the end of the season or the beginning of the new.In last two-three seasons they didn't make even one.I mean,Malmo/IFK Goteborg/Inter and other few lower teams.Sven just left,also Peter Van Meir.Both confirmed that they were behind belgian gang.After they left the deals between their teams just stopped?
That's my last words for you.Good luck with Mexico,we'll see your World Cup victory with Cruz Azul players only soon.

Seems all admins closed their eyes,there is obvious cheating in many NT's...what a poor situation.

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Martin, don't think it just admins, maybe because quite a few of us are experienced... however, I don't think you can compare our ATs.

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Martin, don't think it just admins, maybe because quite a few of us are experienced... however, I don't think you can compare our ATs.


My At's banged 100 goals in 29 competitive games this season,AJ.Best attack in FG in last seasons.
And what means "our"?
I'm just not so cheeky like some people.

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Evgeniy and Nico,it's useless to talk with you as i said long ago.
Ev,the only good players in the game are yours,others are weak.Only your point of view is right,only your judgement is the best and always others need to confirm it.But i won't.
From today i won't talk with you on themes,related with FG since you never showed respect towards me and my opinion on this game.

Franzini...we NEVER would have something in common,you're fan of chickens,i'm a fan of these who usually beat them.Because you said something which was denied only by you and other admins...Yes,there was an belgian alliance.Sven left,did you noticed how changed the transfer policy of clubs with particular belgian managers? Before we had exchanges in the end of the season or the beginning of the new.In last two-three seasons they didn't make even one.I mean,Malmo/IFK Goteborg/Inter and other few lower teams.Sven just left,also Peter Van Meir.Both confirmed that they were behind belgian gang.After they left the deals between their teams just stopped?
That's my last words for you.Good luck with Mexico,we'll see your World Cup victory with Cruz Azul players only soon.

Seems all admins closed their eyes,there is obvious cheating in many NT's...what a poor situation.


You don´t even make sense dude, this is just sad...

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No need to add fuel Nico.
its getting a little nasty.let the things fade.


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