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 Post subject: Re: Uncovered cheating?
PostPosted: 09 Jul 2017, 20:21 
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lol tbh if i dont ill leave the game forever

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 Post subject: Re: Uncovered cheating?
PostPosted: 09 Jul 2017, 21:56 
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lol tbh if i dont ill leave the game forever

lol, why that? There is other great teams like Istanbulspor in this game.

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 Post subject: Re: Uncovered cheating?
PostPosted: 10 Jul 2017, 04:51 
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The point is that a fraudulent team, made by cheating and cheating over the years is now set free to be pickable, there are managers who worked their asses also over the years to build a div 1 side that has a chance to win the title, I don`t see how this situation is fair for all those. I do not have any issues with Hooman in fact I like him, but that team, for free, made out from cheating... it`s not fair.

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 Post subject: Re: Uncovered cheating?
PostPosted: 10 Jul 2017, 06:55 
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The point is that a fraudulent team, made by cheating and cheating over the years is now set free to be pickable, there are managers who worked their asses also over the years to build a div 1 side that has a chance to win the title, I don`t see how this situation is fair for all those. I do not have any issues with Hooman in fact I like him, but that team, for free, made out from cheating... it`s not fair.


Fully agree here with whole post.

Also, I would expect Bryan to make some statement on both, cheating admin and whether any fee will be applied on Istanbulspor.

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 Post subject: Re: Uncovered cheating?
PostPosted: 10 Jul 2017, 14:43 
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Hooman wrote:
lol tbh if i dont ill leave the game forever

lol, why that? There is other great teams like Istanbulspor in this game.



Im very harsh on myself lol

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 Post subject: Re: Uncovered cheating?
PostPosted: 10 Jul 2017, 17:02 
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dzenk wrote:
Nikolaidis wrote:
The point is that a fraudulent team, made by cheating and cheating over the years is now set free to be pickable, there are managers who worked their asses also over the years to build a div 1 side that has a chance to win the title, I don`t see how this situation is fair for all those. I do not have any issues with Hooman in fact I like him, but that team, for free, made out from cheating... it`s not fair.


Fully agree here with whole post.

Also, I would expect Bryan to make some statement on both, cheating admin and whether any fee will be applied on Istanbulspor.


agree here as well!

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 Post subject: Re: Uncovered cheating?
PostPosted: 10 Jul 2017, 17:32 
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I don't have anything with Hooman personally, i have issues with that team though!Fatih started to play youths the same period i started to play youths as well, i remember clearly that i have made a huge offer for a player, the manager of the team(one of Fatih's teams) never replied to my offer and one day later he was Istanbulspor's player for 10 LESS m! Thats why i am so mad with that situation! Its not fair for all of us fighting 10 seasons to play at D1 and if we are lucky enough to win the title!

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 Post subject: Re: Uncovered cheating?
PostPosted: 17 Jul 2017, 15:39 
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has anybody get any feedback from Bryan on what is going to be next ?

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 Post subject: Re: Uncovered cheating?
PostPosted: 17 Jul 2017, 22:26 
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Not a thing mate to me

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 Post subject: Re: Uncovered cheating?
PostPosted: 26 Sep 2017, 21:40 
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So Fatih assured me that all of this was not true, despite stepping down from his team, citing reasons due the pressures this (and other situations in the game) was giving him IRL, as an admin. He also promised to write a post regarding this, to clear his name, but that hasn't arrived, so i can only assume that Daniel was bang on. I've been on the fringe of the game for the last few months due to a combination of buying a new house and additional duties at work, so haven't had time to really go through this properly (something i do sort of feel bad about) - but that can't be helped.

I must say that the evidence is very much pointing in the direction that Daniel is perfectly correct in his evaluation of the transfers. However, having looked through all of the logs, it is very clear that there is no visible link between any of the managers, in terms of how we track cheaters - even before Fatih became an admin - which makes something like this almost impossible to prevent happening. That isn't the case for some other managers in the game, but we have no real evidence that they are not individual managers (colleagues, family members, friends, etc) simply sharing an IP at work, or at home - and therefore, providing they don't make trades with themselves, they are permitted.

I must admit that I did feel very let down when i saw this, as it's difficult to trust people with administrating the game and Fatih did a lot in terms of monitoring the market and implementing what he could within the forum and has certainly left a hole in the Admin team, but i'm confident that with a bit of time and effort, we can get back on track.

But to that end, we probably do need a new Anti-cheat / Transfer Admin (both?) - the question is, who's up for the job, that i can trust?! Answers on a post card.. (or FGM) (or Discord!) They must be willing to help me improve the tools FG has to track cheating, as well as to work through long-winded investigations like this.


Regarding the Istanbulspor situation, although they got their squad through dubious circumstances, i put some thought in back when this happened and decided that anyone could've applied for the job (and surprisingly few actually did), so it was hardly unfair - therefore, i did not fine the team for the previous manager's actions.

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 Post subject: Re: Uncovered cheating?
PostPosted: 11 Dec 2017, 10:52 
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Happy to read new season announcements and learning a fact that such person like Dan is our new anti-cheat admin. I am not worried anymore !

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